Which browsers do you develop for?

blacknight · 06-09-2008, 16:03

When you are working on a site, which browsers do you develop for and test against?

Are there any browsers that you don't support?

forbairt · 07-09-2008, 11:01

When developing I work with Firefox .. and I fix for IE afterwards

These days I like to think I'm aware of most of the browser bugs that will affect my sites so ... fixing it up for IE doesn't take that long.

I guess though really I stick to IE5.5 up ... Firefox ... and safari ...

jennyrusks · 07-09-2008, 12:52

Like James, above, I start with Firefox and then test against Internet Explorer and Safari. I find Internet Explorer 6 to be a major pain in the bum. And now of course, we have Google Chrome.

forbairt · 07-09-2008, 13:00

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Originally Posted by jennyrusks

Like James, above, I start with Firefox and then test against Internet Explorer and Safari. I find Internet Explorer 6 to be a major pain in the bum. And now of course, we have Google Chrome.

I believe the rendering core for chrome should be quite similar to Safari ... though that said I've noticed a few odd things with it.

blacknight · 07-09-2008, 13:28

So how do you do the testing?

Do you actually have copies of all the various browsers you want to test against on your machines or do you use a testing service?

forbairt · 07-09-2008, 14:06

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Originally Posted by blacknight

So how do you do the testing?

Do you actually have copies of all the various browsers you want to test against on your machines or do you use a testing service?

Well I'm running on a Mac .. so obviously I don't have IE installed

I do however have a VM installed with XP and that has a multi ie install on it which is great for testing ...

Mac takes care of Firefox ... and Safari ... the XP vm takes care of FF 2 ... and IE

After that I probably ask browsershots to do a quick check for me against the main browsers.

Do I check against konquorer and so on ... no ... why ... target audience won't be using them. If the project was worth a LOT more then I probably would. but for 1 user in 10000 .... or so using an obscure browser I can take the hit.

jennyrusks · 07-09-2008, 16:28

I have IE7, Firefox 3, Safari and Chrome on my laptop and IE6 and Firefox 2 on my desktop.

I also use browsershots org which allows you to check how your site looks on over 50 different browsers.

Do you know if there is a firefox plugin that lets you simulate different browsers?

blacknight · 07-09-2008, 16:33

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Originally Posted by jennyrusks

Do you know if there is a firefox plugin that lets you simulate different browsers?

I know you can change the UserAgent quite easily, though I haven't heard of anything for simulating other browsers (though it could easily exist!)

forbairt · 07-09-2008, 17:48

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Originally Posted by jennyrusks

I have IE7, Firefox 3, Safari and Chrome on my laptop and IE6 and Firefox 2 on my desktop.

Hey Jennifer ...

Install multiple versions of IE on your PC | TredoSoft

might interest you ... it allows you to run standalone IE versions on your machine. It won't work with Vista however.

To the best of my knowledge you can use this to render pages in firefox
mozdev.org - ietab: index using the IE engine ... don't think it lets you switch versions of IE.

jennyrusks · 09-09-2008, 08:57

Thanks James. I hadn't seen that before. That will be a big time saver.

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jennyrusks Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Like James, above, I start with Firefox and then test against Internet Explorer and Safari. I find Internet Explorer 6 to be a major pain in the bum. And now of course, we have Google Chrome.

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jennyrusks Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thanks James. I hadn't seen that before. That will be a big time saver.